> You can directly call C++ as C++, not via a C ABI.

That's a unique definition of "native". It suggests that C is not a native language, which is going to be a hard thing to convince others of.

Ya, I think that was a bit misspoken. They mostly meant direct C and C++ interop. It feels much less like a traditional FFI and more like using C and C++ libraries from C++ itself.

I mean if you're going to be that pedantic, then Clojure is "native" since all Clojure functions "compile to machine code" via the JVM's JIT.