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You were right to push back. It's not an accurate representation of claude. It's satire.

But its not even good satire, because its totally unrepresentative of my and most others' lived experience. Its similar to making a joke about a calculator misadding two numbers because a stray beam of solar radiation flipped a bit.

Agreed, this site isn't reflective of any of my experience with Claude. It does what I ask it to do, and when it doesn't get it right, it generally turns out there's a good reason for it, which is any of the 100 reasons a human doesn't always get code fixes right on the first try either.

I do remember that one of the first things I did with my CLAUDE.md was to tell it to stick to the scope of the task, never to jump ahead and do extra "helpful" things without confirming with me first, and to follow best software practices including around refactoring but also to specifically avoid overengineering. I don't know if that is what's giving me a different experience from whatever the author seems to be "satirizing".


Aye, and amid all of the (admittedly annoying) word salad, the "Claude" in this satire identified the reason the requested change was hard: someone(s) at some point had hijacked the button markup for other purposes. Un-doing all of that kind of mess is never a trivial change, and probably requires someone with more coding expertise / knowledge of the code than the given prompts reveal the putative user to be.

AI isn't magic, and it won't (or, at least, doesn't yet) enable anyone to do All The Things.


I think this really was a relevant issue around a year ago, give or take, maybe a year and a half now.

But with current models you actively have to sabotage the context to get this kind of behavior, or dramatically underspecify (3 words versus 2-3 sentences)


I understand your frustration, it can be hard to hear that other people's experience of a technology is so different from your own that you cannot relate.

I have misbehaved in this fashion for many people across the full spectrum from casual users to highly experienced software engineers with millions of social media followers, so the statement that it's similar to making a joke about a calculator misadding two numbers because a stray beam of solar radiation flipped a bit at least for my part is not true.

Would you like me to start using bad English and doing things you never asked me to for your sessions, too? Just say the word.


There is not a single modern model where, when asked to "Turn the Add To Cart button Blue", would also turn the "Cancel" button next to that add to cart button blue. That's what this site is communicating, literally, and it does not happen. You'd have to rewind to, like, GPT-3 to get behavior like that (actually, even that would probably do it fine. Maybe a 50 million parameter model embedded in a microwave would struggle).

I am not going to be brain-off empathetic to purported lived experiences which no one has lived, when those purported lived experiences are simultaneously and irreducibly denying the lived experiences of the vast majority of LLM users who do not have these problems. And, frankly, no one should be. At some point, if you're having these problems, its time to grow up, be self-sufficient, and figure out why your interactions with these systems are so much worse than the millions of people who are having perfectly agreeable interactions. Or leave the industry.


Have you ever considered that "well, it works on MY machine!" is perhaps not the most helpful response to people voicing frustration at something that is not working as they expect for them?

I don’t know where you picked up the idea that my intention was to be helpful. I’m only mirroring the intentionality behind whoever created this site; they obviously also had no intention of being helpful, as is the case with many discussions concerning AIs limitations.

I don't know where you picked up the idea that authors intentions was not to be helpful.

Satire cuts through the noise and makes people (most people) see the problem clearly (see political satire).

Ability to joke and to understand jokes is said to be a good proxy for IQ, idk, just sayin

I feel like I am teaching AIs for free here. But I feel like first sentence in funny (and I like to try to be funny) and some people need stuff to be said directly for them 'to get it', and I am bored on my flight and have internet, so here we are. If you read this far, go watch 'louis ck airplane wifi' clip. Now that I am thinking about it, I am amazed. You folks have a good day!


Thinking....

The user is asserting that this is "not a lived experience"

working out if the user has missed the LLM Cliche

Formulating a suitable response

"did you just argue with a joke?" No, thats to blunt

"Is it satire when it only applies to you?" no again passive aggressive

lets just print the dictionary definition of satire and hope the move on

> Satire is when...


FYI you're missing the satire in the comment you're responding too.

You’re absolutely correct!

+1 to sarcasm.

Today's Bill Gates' pathology isn't greed, but guilt. You can't trust him to do what's best for us, but you can trust him to (try to) do what's best for his public image as a philanthropist. These goals don't always coincide, but they often do.


I think that "almost everyone" has a multi region cdn, but fewer have multi region application deployment, or cdn workers handling a significant portion of the application logic. My experience here may be incorrect or not generalizable, but I've rarely seen web apps that are slow due to latency loading static resources, but I've often seen slowness from high latency of the API calls and due to large static payloads.


Is this the react test framework enzyme? To me, $6 million and 5 years seems like a very high estimate for this even without any automation (AI or otherwise) for even relatively large applications. How could they possibly have a test suite this large?


Well, yes, since long before the current administration. It's mentioned multiple times (with examples) in the European Parliament's "The Echelon Affair" report.[0] But it seems to me that this is not really what you're asking, but rather you're implying that there's no justification for this move other than European protectionism. If this is the case, I would argue that a sitting administration actively threatening with the invasion of your territories is a compelling argument for politicians and business leaders to evaluate alternatives.

[0] https://historicalarchives.europarl.europa.eu/files/live/sit...


If you look at the item number and it begins with an s, it means it's a combination of multiple articles. If you click "what's included" you'll see what articles it consists of. The assembly documents will include the assembly documents for each child article. On the top pax, you can see it actually consists of 20 distinct child articles (some of which require no assembly).


I've never really gotten the impression that Allard or the Örebro party support ethnic cleansing. What makes you say this? I'm not sure if any of their suggested policies would even be considered that controversial outside of Sweden.


Hello MAGA.


I think his train of thought is "young graduates generally aren't anti-immigration, so if I insinuate they're anti-immigration if they disagree with me they will be convinced by my argument". I don't think we need to read much more than that into it.


this is how i took it as well. he’s creating a false equivalency between AI and immigrants, and attempting to justify it with “diversity of perspectives” and trying to tell you that to remain intellectually consistent you must embrace or reject both.


You know, I am usually one to immediately jump to "to hell with that" when someone brings up Hanlon's razor, but I think it may apply here.

He certainly is creating a false equivalency between AI and immigrants, but with how tone-deaf this speech is, it may not be deliberate. He likely already has this association.

So then the question would be: why would he have this association?

My only guess is he has a fairly shallow view of both as cheap labor. Which is pretty malicious after all.


I agree. I think it's telling that AI leaders need to rely on fallacious reasoning and trickery to promote their product.

A good product should sell itself.

I feel that AI leaders have been shoving their product down our throats for the last two years (at least).


This commenter seems fishy (AI).


It's important to realize that those people are sociopaths. They delight in the suffering of the common man through their complete lack of empathy.

Also, just because they are very good at climbing the corporate ladder (which is a skill on its own), it doesn't necessarily translate to them being particularly smart on fields beyond their expertise.


Also something I noticed: whenever you see them talking about AI, they all seem to have the same smirk on their faces: that “we’re making you a permanent underclass and you just have to deal with it” smirk. They all have it.


> It's important to realize that those people are sociopaths. They delight in the suffering of the common man.

> Also, just because they are very good at climbing the corporate ladder (which is a skill on its own), it doesn't necessarily translate to them particularly smart on fields beyond their expertise.

I couldn't agree more. Thank you for your comment!


He's just trying to meet the graduates at their intellectual level, since the graduates' boos operate at about the same level of depth.


What would a crowds more sophisticated, intellectual, form of answer be?


A hearty "fuck off" I would suppose?


I think GPs point is that this is how they're trying to spin it, but they're not explicitly saying it, and there are doubts whether it's actually true. For outside observers it's difficult to simply ignore all the embarrassing outages that cf has experienced recently and just accept that the company has suddenly solved all their issues by using AI and firing people.


    > For outside observers it's difficult to simply ignore all the embarrassing outages that cf has experienced recently
I don't know what to think when I see comments like this. Everyone makes mistakes. And no one provides flawless service. If their recent issues are so damaging in your opinion, why is their business continuing to expand at more than 20% per year?


I don't think the mistakes in themselves are damaging. What seems damaging to me is that cf has, on multiple occasions, repeated the same or similar mistakes right after they made major mistakes. This makes it seem like they're not learning from mistakes. Regarding the success of their business model, I can't make a meaningful statement about it, but is that really a convincing argument? If a business is successful, does that automatically mean their product is good?


Hm, it's only something like 10% of German traffic fatalities that occur on the autobahn. And according to wikipedia, Germany doesn't rank high in terms of traffic fatalities, even by European standards. France has a similar number of highway deaths. I'm personally not a fan of the autobahn and especially not the unrestricted speed. It seems obvious that it should cause lots of fatalities, but the evidence for it just doesn't seem to be there.


https://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/tempolimit-koennte-jaehr... claims a 75% higher fatality rate on unrestricted autobahn v. autobahn with speed limits.

But in general: freeways/motorways (whatever you want to call them) almost never account for the majority of fatalities anywhere — there’s a lot that makes them safer than the average rural road even given comparable speeds, and there’s fewer vulnerable road users around.


> It seems obvious that it should cause lots of fatalities

That's not obvious at all to me, what would the reasoning be?


Maybe I expressed myself poorly. Generally, higher speed is associated with higher fatality rates, all else being equal. So, one would assume a highway without speed limits would cause lots of fatalities. Most people would probably be surprised to learn that this is not the case.


If there is anything remotely potentially dangerous, unlimited speed ends and the road gets well defined and enforced speed limit. If the traffic on that segment of the road gets high, they put in speed limit sign too.

Moreover, there is a question of liability for the insurance purpose. If you go above 130, you are assumed to be caused of the accident. So, most Germans go roughly 130 in those segments anyway.


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